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Professor Ann Wolbert Burgess was on the dais, and Robsham Theater was packed on a late afternoon in September. But this crowd wasn鈥檛 there for one of Burgess鈥檚 typically oversubscribed forensics classes. Students, faculty, administrators, and law enforcement officials had turned out to witness a reunion, of sorts, between two of the minds behind Mindhunter. The hit Netflix crime drama features fictional representations of Burgess and retired FBI Special Agent John E. Douglas, her longtime colleague, co-author, and a criminal investigator with whom she helped develop the theory and techniques of criminal profiling.

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The team began to analyze crimes for signs based on what was left behind: The criminal acts were either organized and preplanned, or disorganized, impulsive鈥攁pparently carried out by someone under the influence of alcohol or drugs, he said. They determined that the experts鈥攖he convicted killers whose crimes had defied understanding鈥攐ught to be interviewed.

It was a game-changing idea.

At the time, Douglas was traveling the country with Ressler doing training with local police departments. 鈥淏ob and I had downtime so we decided to go to the prisons. Let鈥檚 go talk to Charles Manson about his victim selection; let鈥檚 find out why they confess if someone confesses to a crime,鈥� Douglas said.

鈥淎nn was very interested in what we were doing going into prisons,鈥� he added. Burgess said she thought the idea had promise: The highly intelligent convicts, after all, had little to do in prison but reflect on their crimes. And some of them might want to gloat.

Notably, the show changes the identity of Burgess, a psychiatric mental health nurse, to that of Wendy Carr, a no-nonsense psychologist and a closeted lesbian who moves to Quantico, Virginia, to be close to the FBI Academy and the agents she was working with. Burgess鈥攚ho has used the mischaracterization of her character as a psychologist to educate people on the forensic role of nurses鈥攕aid that she and her husband, Allen, were raising four children in Boston at the time the series is set. A pilot, he would frequently fly her down to Quantico, and would sometimes transport her and the FBI investigators to crime scenes.

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But Mindhunter accurately portrays Burgess鈥檚 instrumental role in helping the profiling program secure its initial funding鈥攁nd giving it scientific legitimacy, according to Douglas. 鈥淚f it weren鈥檛 for Ann we wouldn鈥檛 have this program,鈥� Douglas told the audience. He credits Burgess for 鈥減ushing us or we never would have gotten鈥� initial grants of $200,000 and $185,000.

Perhaps more important, 鈥淲e learned from Ann how to conduct an interview,鈥� he added.

Burgess developed a 57-page computerized notebook the agents started filling out before they went to a prison interview. Each included family histories and police, court, and corrections records. Burgess wanted them to tape record everything, but the investigators had to gain enough trust of the convicted serial predators to record them. So in the beginning, they took good notes and filled out the rest of the answers after returning to the hotel after the interview, Douglas said.

Burgess, for her part, remembered those early days when the agents鈥� families and hers carried some of the workload. 鈥淏efore we had funding, our children did data entry,鈥� Burgess said. 鈥淭hat is,鈥� she quipped, 鈥渋f they wanted to have supper that night.鈥�